Wednesday, July 26, 2017


RESPONSE TO FB POST OF JO ENGELLSON  (Table of Contents "pushed down" below). See the reference to me, Mark M Robbins, in Jo E's post below. (Jo Englesson is the founder of the "for profit" Gratitude Training LLC for those just joining.) Let me first say I hope her new baby is healthy. 

In JO E’s post, people are asked to pray for me. Please spare me prayers and use prayer for those that really need it. Writing a blog that is radically honest is not reason enough to pray for me.

Also… is prayer even part of GT? To use GT lingo, why aren’t I being “authored away” from the place within called “source.” If we are 100 % responsible for everything 100 % of the time, who needs prayer? Don’t we write our own script (which implies that we play God)?
-         Do we pray to God?
-         Or do we “author” what happens to us? 
Mutually exclusive as I see it.

Jo Englesson seems weary in her post. Counting money is a tiresome task. Running a cult is not for everyone. After all, one has to trick 100% of the people 100% of the time. When someone like me gets “authored in” it is like someone “over-turning the apple cart.” I am the one that asked the hard questions... I separated from the pack. I am the fish that spit out the hook… the one that got away! And the one that was tossed out "Scientology style." Not too bright to copy Scientology if you don't want to be seen as a cult! 

But I must say… it takes chutzpah for the cult leader to play the "sympathy card" while many in GT work and handle responsibilities for no pay within this business. It appears that the “Jo E and company” have become desensitized to the “pink cloud” that tells them that “service to GT” is worth it because there is no higher calling than establishing world peace, Forgive me for asking, but how much ground has been made towards this goal over 8 years? How long can people fall for this?

I give GT credit. It takes moxie and a significant level of brainwashing in order to convince someone to pay GT $15,000 to be TRAINED!! (to be a trainer). I have never seen this before and I have lots and lots of business experience. I always paid to train my staff. It is the legal and moral right thing to do. They still have to pay rent to pay while they are being trained, right? I also paid the person running the vacuum at 1 AM. I paid over-time too!

My son suggested that 'lil Miss "World Peace" should save her tears for those she exploits. Miss World Peace doesn’t play win/win when you cross her. She will even take you to court! And play dirty in the process (anything you share in GT can be used against you). It takes a very cold heart to watch brainwashed and broke (and often broken) people standing on chairs begging for tuition money. And washing cars. And seeing a psychologically manipulated woman offer to pose nude for a "little food and money" as she "volunteers" her life away. It is positively stunning to me how little empathy that’s offered to these people from those in leadership.

I don't feel sorry for Scientology because of the exposure actress Leah Remini provided. I don't feel sorry when a child trafficking ring is broken up. I don't feel sorry for the people who went to jail after I broke up a Pa auto theft ring. And I don't feel sorry for a cult leader who profits from the brainwashing of many vulnerable people who were never told that they would have to work for a business and not get paid.

For some, like those in leadership, the very "wrong person" was authored into this program. Others may thank me once their long and likely painful detox is over. But I will be mostly helping people I will never meet. These are the ones that see my blog and stay away from Part 1.Part one is GT's food source. For me, this is a hill worth dying on. March with me brothers and sisters if you wish. The truth will set you free but it will hurt a bit at first. 

Current News: (1) Gratitude Training shuts down West Palm location. (2) Letter to the Pride Center in Ft Lauderdale - As a staunch supporter of LGBTQ rights I am pleased to see the great work that you do. I write in order to caution you. I would like to advise you not to sully your good name by being associated in any project with Gratitude Training LLC. My blog reads like a text book (a small one) of everything that is horribly wrong with this cult (and it is definitely a cult). My blog carries a message so powerful that the Attorney General of Florida (Pam Bondi) felt compelled to write me regarding potential criminality within this cult. Areas of concern are deceptive trade practices, federal and state tax charges, violations of labor laws and whatever else may come up. Civil suits are sure to follow as well. Please read about Gratitude Training at   You may contact me if you need to follow up at ------.


TABLE OF CONTENTS (TOC)   (also see Facebook page named GRATITUDE TRAINING EXPO SED... and a soon to be published web site called


2       UNPAID FEMALE OFFERS NUDE PICS FOR CASH/FOOD    See   HERE   (TOC continued below)

       See link HERE
       See link HERE.
6      HOW WE KNOW THAT GT DOES NOT WORK  (TOC continued below)

Actual GT photo from Part three (indoctrination phase)

7      MY SOLEMN STAND     
9      COMMENTS FROM A FROM A LMHC (Licensed Mental Health Counselor) AND A GT GRAD  Click HERE

12     IRS COMPLAINT SUBMITTED   (TOC continued below)




18     ABOUT ME      (TOC continued below)







THINK OF ME AS THE "LEAH REMINI"OF GRATITUDE TRAINING.  (Leah Remini hosted HBO special where she exposed SCIENTOLOGY). 




Destructive cults hurt people chiefly through exploitation. This may be  accomplished by coercing people to surrender assets or by profiteering off of free labor.
Intro (1) - GT does not pay most of its labor and pressures tuition paying students to recruit new students.  Involuntary servitude involves a person laboring against their will to benefit another. Coercion is present.  Brainwashed people have relinquished free will.  Authority figures pressuring students into unpaid service and commission-free recruiting in order to obtain their "10" lives is highly pressured and illegal. An example below depicts a female willing to pose nude for "cash or money" in order to have money to subsist and to subsidize her "service" work for this for profit company.

Intro (2)This is "for profit" cult BRAINWASHES STUDENTS who then move on (as mostly unpaid "staff") to BRAINWASH OTHERS.

Intro (3) - The GT group is collectively"broken down" and "built up" through (what I call) "Trauma bombing" and ultimately "Love bombing." Pairing the manufactured euphoria with the ("together in a fox hole") group bonding creates a high on par with any addictive drug.  Only it is more dangerous because the high appears to be legitimate, real, and lasting. It is not. The sad reality is that a potent street drug is ACTUALLY EASIER to detox from!

Intro (4)  The group bonding/ euphoria is is proven to be categorically illegitimate in that those folks who dissent and ask too many questions are hastily excommunicated "Scientology style." Severed at the head. Once isolated, one realizes that the "cult's love" was artificial and cannot, by definition, be considered unconditional. It is all a mirage.

Intro (5) -  While in the cult, one is a "fish in water." There is no perspective. Before you know it nearly all your friends are "fish in the water" with you. However, once one takes a stand to be "outside the water"... dimensions and a landscape emerge. The clear view sees the the cult and the "con" that has been played. Some never make it outside the water. They cannot be reached.

Lawsuits were filed against Lifespring (mirror image of GT) for charges ranging from involuntary servitude to wrongful death.

Aug 24, 2017    Mark M Robbins (this blogger) receives criminal avenues to pursue, recommendations, and one direct filing from the Attorney General of Florida (PAM BONDI) to take against Gratitude Training LLC

Sep 20 or 21   Cult Leader Jo Englesson's Attorney conducts a disposition on me (the blogger and dissident of GT)

Sep 22    Cult Leader Jo Englesson (must show up) in attempt to strip this blogger's right to protest (near the training centers) by virtue of a restraining order (where confidential info and hearsay is forwarded as evidence). Media may want to be here for this since I have nothing to hide. 

Lifespring (mirror image of GT) was ordered to pay money to participants who required psychiatric hospitalization and to relatives of members who committed suicide, or otherwise died. At least one participant of GT has committed suicide.


Cults gain influence over its members from increased isolation/estrangement from the outside community. This can include cutting out family and friends.

(3)      NEW!    EXPERIENTIALEXERCISES FROM PART one and tw0...   SEE Link  HERE

The best disinfectant for 
corruption is light!

(4)      IMPORTANT DISCLAIMER  -  This blog represents the blogger's opinions, research, inside experience, observations, interpretations, and perceptions of Gratitude Training LLC. ( "GT "). I was a student. If any statement(s) are indicated to be materially untrue, this blogger (Mark M Robbins) will examine the merits of any claim. If a claim is found to have merit, the blogger will post a timely retraction so as to quickly rectify the concern. 


My peaceful protest will continue with vigor and I am confident that my right to peacefully protest will not be taken away.  I have asked very uncomfortable questions. I have broken no laws.  I am a very credible and highly educated former Senior level Finance person who "smelled a rat" and questioned the founder on her illegal business practices within this "for profit" company. I was told I wasn't a "good fit" hours later. This is VERY PERSONAL to me in that my adopted twin sons (age 19) are/were in the program with me. "GRATITUDE TRAINING  EXPOSED" is also a PUBLIC FACEBOOK GROUP. 

Members become increasingly dependent on leadership. Defectors are treated with scorn, "freeze outs," and are often smeared. This engenders very high "exit costs" as those excommunicated are treated with disdain and serve as examples for the rest.


GT is a for  profit" Large Group Awareness Training (LGAT) program that does NOT PAY the vast majority of its labor. 

It is a toxic cult (see characteristics below). It uses...
(1) pop psychology 
(2) experiential exercises (with music to match) 
(3) unproven and apocryphal spiritual “laws”
(4) frenetic, frantic, and pressured days lasting up to 15 hours (up to five days) 
(5) “trauma bonding” and break downs and “love bombing”
(6) an “us versus the world” philosophy to foster team bonding
(7) uses the fear of excommunication and isolation to keep members adhered

A single leader is most often the authoritarian leader of a cult... or a coterie of leaders may also serve to elicit authority and evoke compliance and obedience from the group.

A)     It brainwashes students so they in turn (as staff) can brainwash others.

B)      An ocean of brainwashed adherents (students and graduates) work for no monetary pay for this “for profit” business. Some work as many as 60 hours per week.

C)     Students and graduates sign up family and friends “pyramid style” for no commission.

D)     Secrecy and brainwashing fuels this business. Exposure is desperately needed to liberate those brainwashed. Hopefully the IRS will come looking for its money after I wrote them!

E)      Parts 1 and 2 (Total of nine intense training days) create the euphoria and the prelude to Part 3 which is an 80 day indoctrination phase in which seemingly a “thousand hooks” are used to keep vulnerable students obsessively engaged. Coaching calls, Mentor calls, “Senior calls,” small group calls, team calls (up to 3 hours), committees, legacy project, goal setting, commission-free recruitment (“enrollment”) quotas, fund raisers, service for parts 1 and 2… it never ends.

F)      The beneficiaries? The founder Jo Engellson and other partners in the LLC.

Destructive cults deliberately mandate harm which is practiced systematically in the group. GT champions the idea of involuntary servitude which has members "volunteer" countless hours which exacts a toll on their personal lives and family.

CHARACTERISTICS OF A CULT (and their relation to GT)

(1) A sect or a group is considered to be extremist or false, when under the guidance of an authoritarian and/or charismatic leadership, members exhibit fixed and/or religious veneration. Groups that meet this definition tend to have an escalating negative impact on the lives of followers. The chronic draw of money, time, and unpaid labor over time escalates within GT and creates hardship (even if the student sees it as doing “the best work there is”).

(2) Members are zealous, protective, and unquestioningly committed. --- Members regard leadership and their ideology as representing truth, law, and what is right and good. Us versus them. “We are the 2 per cent.” The leadership affirms and enforces this idea.  

(3) Philosophy is often based on the ideations coming from the mind of one person; often a person not affirmed to be psychiatrically sound (narcissism for example) or even vetted by others. GT Founder Jo Englesson claims that we are 100 % responsible for everything 100 % of the time. She calls it “source movement” whereby we “author” everything into our lives. This of course is a logical fallacy because countering “authorships” collide and create mutually exclusive results (for example, two competing sports teams “authoring” victory). It also creates nonsensical results… such as a fetus choosing or “authoring” to abort itself. It puts humans in the place of God.

(4) Questioning, doubt, and dissent are discouraged or rebuked. Criticism about leadership or the group are taken very seriously and likely punished. Those that push hard enough are considered a liability. They are quickly excommunicated and cut off from the group into total isolation (similar to “suppressives” in Scientology).

It’s not always obvious when a group is a cult, and by the time you realize you’re involved with one, getting away can be difficult. While no group or organization admits to being a cult, you’re probably dealing with one if you are not allowed to ask questions, make your own decisions, or disagree with the leader.

(5) The group uses public humiliation or punishment, debilitating work, sleep deprivation, or other practices to create group-think and to suppress individualism and doubt. Like most cults, the concentration of money and power remains in the hands of the very few.

The group is elitist, claiming special status and powers for itself and its members. Unrealistic goals are set. This is called “magical thinking.” Jo Engellson maintain a fanciful vision of world peace being “sourced” through her very fringe New Age group. She also contradicts her vision by running to attorneys and the courts when pressed hard enough on her ideas and her illegal business practices. 

(7)  Members of the group generally begin to disassociate themselves with close family and friends. The group becomes a replacement or a surrogate “family.” Members within GT are told that a “10 life” or a “10 partner” is likely only available within GT. The group becomes the sole community of its followers. Members of the “staff” are given robotic, fixed, or scripted, answers to common questions. Or they simply answer a question with another question. 

(8) Questioning the group's practices often leads to forced exodus. Members remain because they become afraid of alienation and isolation if they leave. “Love” within the group is completely conditional and therefore represents a false love and a false hope. Acceptance and communication dries up once a member is outside the community.

(9) Groups like GT “trauma bond” its members to congeal. A process of “breaking down” followed by "Love bombing." The shower of love occurs “full throttle” at the end of any session or multi day event so that members feel valued and special. These warm feeling are capitalized by GT to inspire its “love bombed students” to recruit and sign up family and friends.  

(10) The young… the lost… the broken… the molested… and the drug addicted are populations that GT likes to target. THE MOST VULNERABLE. GT preys upon the fact that almost all of these people may have never felt the euphoria of “love bombing.” Students mistake GT as the lone source of these good feelings when in reality these experiences can be found in many other groups. GT has a huge LGBTQ population which deceives these adherents into thinking it is a safe space for them. The reality is that GT is a very dangerous for anyone over time as it will rob one of valuable time, money, and meaningful connections to the outside world.

(11) GT breaks its promises as though they were never made. Confidentiality is repeatedly assured. Students believe GT to be a safe place. Yet since no one in GT (that I have met) is professionally licensed or certified, GT is not bound by HIPPA laws. Like Scientology, private information from applications and secrets that are shared become fair game as weapons to be used against dissenters, suppressives, or subversives.  This includes a court of law. This nefarious tactic is also used within Scientology. 

(12)  Longitudinal studies of cults reflect that most members struggle over time. This is certainly true of GT. A syndrome called the "Roman Candle Effect" takes place. Inspired and euphoric members often see immediate improvements in their life and even in their employment. But given that there is no mechanism in GT to keep these feelings alive - other than sacrificing more money, time, and unpaid labor - a vast majority never experience abundance. Most, over time, disengage almost entirely from the group.

(13)  While espousing the goals of win/win results and a vision of world peace (a prime example of child-like "magical thinking"), founder Jo Englesson has legal help ready to smear students and take them to court if the training is challenged.

Leaders experience messianic visions of grandeur (ie; world peace) and at the same time stunningly lack sympathy towards others. 

One female volunteer felt compelled to pose nude in return for money and cash. Leadership was seemingly unmoved by this woman's plight as this young woman was actually encouraged in her tawdry endeavor. 

Cults deliberately mandate harm which is practiced systematically in the group. GT champions the idea of involuntary servitude which has members "volunteer" countless hours which exacts a toll on their personal lives and family.

Four basic behaviors found in extreme form in dysfunctional cults: 
(1) Compliance with the group 
(2) dependence on a leader (leadership) 
(3) Avoiding Dissent
(4) Devaluing the outsider - This deserves an explanation as it pertains to GT...

 (a) The "Two per cent" - GT claims that they are the 2 per cent to change the world. This is utter nonsense because I, and many others, were part of this "two per cent" long before entering GT. This anti-corruption blog was way out in front of anything I did in GT.

(b) A selfish program  -  GT is actually a very selfish program, It focuses on personal transformation of individuals and focuses almost exclusively on helping those within the cult. Outsiders are barely mentioned. Some mistake it as being ontological (the study of being). This 

(c) Religion     GT IS A RELIGIONIt stands diametrically opposed to monotheism and theocracies that exist within our predominantly JUDEO-CHRISTIAN culture.  Students are told that we "author" everything... that we are responsible for everything (100% of the time)...we are accountable... we write our own script. We are the "source" of it all. Most religions make reference to man's free will as well as God's will. In Gratitude Training - ONE STANDS IN PLACE OF GOD. In fact, it would be accurate within GT to state that GT Founder Jo Engellson herself "authored" me into her life so that I can terminate this cult. 

(d)  Our perfect "10" partner -  We are told that our perfect "ten" partner awaits us within GT (and not likely anywhere else). Yet we are told in the 80 day part three that we aren't to date within our team (thus providing more incentive to remain as we wait for, what really could be considered, a "sexual union" at the end of part three). However, I know of only three GT relationships started when I was in GT. All three failed.  

(e) GT IS RAUNCHY. SEX and SEXINESS are HIGHLY FAVORED AND PROMOTED WITHIN GT. Unconfirmed sources have told me about "swinging circles," orgies, and graduates inviting attractive students to private parties. I was privy to seeing a straight woman dating a pre-surgery transgender man. A 23 year old lesbian young woman calling a 50 year old twice-divorced woman "my girl." A 22 year old young man (not a massage therapist) giving full body (clothes on thankfully) massages to a 65 year old man. I am not the "morality police," so you can form your own opinions. I will refrain from judgment.  Bear in mind, however, when asked during Part two "Have you ever molested someone"... a number of hands went up. There is no screening and no filters here. I WOULD ESTIMATE 60 % OF THE STAFF ARE LGBTQ'S IF THAT MATTERS TO ANYONE.

(e) Our perfect "10" Life - Similarly, our perfect "10" life awaits us as well within GT. Yet my experience shows that most people in GT are poor. Their involuntary servitude to the cult furthers their disposition. 

(f) Our existing partners - GT absolutely puts a wedge between students and their partners and families. GT relationships with non GT people tend to worsen as the distance is increased. Many family members have reached out to me asking me how to "un-brainwash" their loved ones. GT, quite cruelly, seems interested in leveraging this brokenness to their own economic advantage. The answer? Sign them up! Of course. 

(g)  The world outside - I was personally shocked at the distance between my GT community and the outside world which included my old friends. Dating someone outside of GT was unthinkable. They were simply too "closed." I was amazed at the separation after just a few months. 

(h) "Whipped Cream on Shit"  .  I am very cynical of the motives here. 

(i) Practical jokes on the those outside of GT  - The first weekend of Part 3 ("ML" or masterful living) we are asked to play jokes on outsiders who are innocent recipients of GT's pranks. Examples...

  - The "Invisible date" involves going to a diner and ordering food for two even though there is only the one student present. We are then told to send back the food for our "invisible date" which costs the restaurant money and takes advantage of a waitress who is barely paid as it is.

  - "Homeless man"   We are to dress as a homeless person and beg for money that we don't need. This takes advantage of people's generosity and takes money that literally could have gone to a homeless person.
- Halt a sporting even. We are to stop a sporting event and have everyone sing "God Bless America." It could be something as simple as a little league game - but I felt that this exercise poked fun at those with mental illness (who may not have understood appropriate boundaries).     
- "Gay Bar"    We are to go to a gay bar and get a gay person to buy us a drink and we are to get their phone number. This obviously is toying with the emotions of others.
- Other pranks include... being blindfolded for a night, singing to people we are attracted to at a grocery store, haggling over the price of cheese etc..

Isn't this like the TV show Impractical Jokers?    I don't think so. I would assume that this TV show "lets the person in on the prank" once it is finished. Like "Candid Camera" once did. No one likely gets hurt. In GT we are specifically told NOT to ever "let the person in" on the GT prank.

GRATITUDE TRAINING does not embrace Buddhism though some claim it to be ontological (the study of "being"). GT bastardizes Buddhism with its focus on "me" and "more." It is the Law of Attraction taken to its lunatic fringe. Like those selling picks and shovels during the gold rush, the ones that benefit are the ones charging for the training.


Flare out - Euphoria, like the high from any drug, always fades. 100 % of the time.

Testimonials - These do not accurately validate the experience as they are usually taken during a euphoric state (also when students are asked to sign up for the next part).

Magical Thinking - Child like fantasies of grandeur not based on anything real (ie; "I am going to be a model and a motivational speaker")

Pink Cloud - This induced euphoria engenders false hope. Though a person may have benefitted some from the program - dashed hopes appear in the form of human limitations. 

Depression - The danger for depression is very real as a person's reality sets in. "Promised results" fail to appear. A students' trust gives way that to an admission that the student was duped.

Chasing Ghosts - Maintaining the euphoria of the program is like chasing the "first high" from a drug. It remains frustratingly out of reach. GT students falsely believe that volunteering will "preserve the energy." Very few last long as life responsibilities take over. 

Confirmation Bias (THIS IS BIG!!) - People typically are in denial when a significant amount of money and time has been invested in a program. Students will exaggerate the benefits so they do not appear foolish. They will blindly defend the cult.

The truth will set you free- but first it will hurt. Most adherents to a cult aren't ready to hear dissenting opinions. They tend to ignore all the warning signs. They are actually afraid of or angry at anyone who has information that exposes the deceit of the organization. Some people NEVER get past this stage. They are hostile towards any information that spotlights the deceit and errors of the group.


Regressive Fallacy ("Revert to the mean") Think of an over-inflated stock market. Eventually values "come back to earth" to reflect reality.

Communal Reinforcement (Group Think) - Students are loathe to stand against their peers. No one wants to be the "Debbie downer."

Fear of Excommunication - "If you aren't rowing with the team you are rowing against them or considered dead weight." Like Scientology, if a student is seen to be sincerely skeptical or antagonistic, he/she will be isolated, smeared, and even taken to court. Like me!

Denial "Doubled Down" - The fiercest defenders of the cult, and those in the deepest denial, are those gullible enough to assemble a career out of the "training." Examples would include the life coaching, charging for "A Course in Miracles" class, practicing a New Age skill to complement GT,  or setting a goal to become a GT trainer them selves (so more can be deceived). These people are the most dogged in their defense of the cult. 


Coercion leads to "group think" which leads to mind control and brainwashing. GT and other LGATS (Large Group Awareness Training) have had more than of a half century to perfect their craft.

(6)      HOW WE KNOW GT DOES NOT WORK!!   There is no scholarship fund (that I am aware of).

A) Graduates are too poor to contribute having never received their promised abundance.

B) Graduates are too unwilling to give as they don't see the value of the program as worth supporting or endowing. 

There is no way around these facts. Water is wet. Rocks are hard. Students are left to beg, wash cars, and even pose nude for money. This is reprehensible and condemnable. 

The trainers are not just teachers; they are sellers. Their main job is to motivate participants to buy more services, i.e., sign up for more courses.

The following reflects my opinions and/or convictions. I make the earnest request that Gratitude Training LLC (a for profit cult) to CEASE AND DESIST activities immediately. (Pompano, WPB, Miami, St Pete, and 4 others). This is a CULT...  A dangerous "for profit" cult. It needs to end now. (NOTE: WPB has closed)

I ask for the support of past Participants of GT, Law Enforcement, IRS, News organizations (Papers, TV,  on line), Political Office Holders Social media including FaceBook, Official labor boards, the IRS, and anyone else who sees the depravity of this cult. Involuntary servitude of brainwashed labor in a "FOR PROFIT" business is immoral and illegal. Many have worked 60 hours of unpaid labor in a single week. THE NUMBERS ON THE SPREADSHEET I SENT TO THE IRS ARE STAGGERING. (see IRS letter below). As a former Senior Financial Officer, I have had much experience in estimating financials.

A) Unpaid Labor (Quantities unfathomable)
B) Social Security Contributions not paid into by workers (workers forego retirement income; est'd at  $ 3- 4 Million
C) Overtime not paid 
D) Double Labor Rates owed on unpaid labor
E) State taxes owed (four locations outside FL)       
F) Federal income taxes owed (over $10 Million) 
G) W-4's not filled out
H) Other Withholdings  

The fact that trainers are unlikely to do any follow-up on their trainees, except to try to persuade them to take more courses, indicates that their main interest is not in helping people lead more fulfilling lives.

The UNDECLARED AND "UNDER THE TABLEaspects this "for profit" cult warrant the IRS complaint that I filed (below).

There are young women who have revealed backgrounds of broken homes and molestation. Yet these same (now brainwashed) women are being coerced to "make tuition" by selling personal items and taking part in "sexy bingo night." Some have been coerced to prance in bras and panties to the delight of male and/or lesbian participants - some who have had histories of molestation and/or sex addictions themselves. WOULD YOU WANT YOUR DAUGHTER IN THIS? 

I want you - the police, EMS, and authorities - to know WHO you are "protecting" here and WHY you have had to forcibly commit (at least one young woman in my training) to the local Psych unit for a multiple day stay this summer. I will tell you as an eye witness that she had a psychotic and/or disassociated "break" as a result of an exercise taken way too far. In my view, she was bullied into her uncontrollable quivering state by an unrelenting exercise. I and another woman compassionately tried to "to reach her." But she was gone. There was no one present at the training with ANY QUALIFICATIONS to handle this situation. It was chilling.

This evening I received a request from a 20 year old girl desperate for tuition money. If this were a a bona fide program - an alumni supported program - this young woman and others like her would not have to "crowd fund," sell themselves as dates, beg while standing on chairs, wash cars,  or bear skin at events to get into the next phase of the program (indoctrination).

This is beyond reprehensible and is disgusting. FOUNDER JO ENGELLSON can file whatever she wants against me. I will NOT be intimidated by a manipulative and exploitative cult leader. The road and the future here is clear. It is to be brainwashed so as to brainwash others. Without this the business crumbles. This is the truth as I see it and I have been given no reason to vary from it. I call it a "metaphysical death hole." It is time for action. Fathers! Save your daughters!
Trainers are paid commissions for the number of people they recruit and train, not for the number of people they truly help. It is not in their interest to do follow-up studies on their trainees. It is in their interest to do follow-up recruiting calls.


GRATITUDE TRAINING IN ONE SENTENCE:  This "for profit" cult BRAINWASHES STUDENTS who then move (mostly as unpaid "staff") to BRAINWASH OTHERS.

  (9) COMMENTS FROM A FROM A LMHC (Licensed Mental Health Counselor) AND A GT GRAD.   Click HERE

What the training is more than anything the application of classic techniques of in indoctrination and mental conditioning worthy of Pavlov himself. 

(10)     MY SONS ENTRAPPED (Partial success in liberating them... 08/28/17)

My adopted twins, as a result of witnessing the desperate and slanderous accusations made against their dad (message below) by founder Jo Engellson... they have both informed me that they they do believe GT to be a cult and "plan to" not finish Part 3 of Gratitude Training. They know their father to be a man who stands on principle, and they are sickened to see their father's name be unfairly sullied on a FB group of over 3,000 members( see below). 

They see their father to be a powerful and brilliant leader, and a father loving and sensitive enough to have never laid a hand on them. My sons implicate ONLY the founder/partners in their reason for their planned leave and WILL remain close to the many dear friends made. I wish to stay close to the dear friends I have made as well. My sons implore the community to see the accusations made against their dad in light of the inquiry their father has made regarding unpaid labor practices and the pursuant IRS complaint filed against the "for profit" Gratitude Training LLC   (Dad, Billy, and Jack pictured below)

I LOVE YOU JACK AND BILLY "It doesn’t change when we stare at it from across the room. It doesn’t change when we sit in prayer and wish it away. It doesn’t change when we pretend it’s all Go(o)d. IT CHANGES WHEN WE CROSS THE SACRED BATTLEGROUND WILLING TO DIE FOR OUR TRUTH. It changes when we look the lie in the eye until it has nowhere left to hide. It changes when we pick up the sword of truth and cut the falsity until it bleeds right through. The era of the sacred activist is upon us. Not the warrior run amok, but the benevolent warrior who fights for our right to the light. Some battles are worth fighting. I will die on any hill for you."

LGAT gurus claim to know why their participants are not happy or why they are not living fulfilled lives. They assume everyone is being hindered by the same things and that one approach will suit all.--------------------------------


Dear Jo Englesson  What you are doing to people is horrifically exploitative. Sucking thousands of hours from people's live with no pay is both despicable and illegal. 

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The money ends up in your pocket and this fringe New Age Movement is already at maturity.  You know full well that when people leave or get kicked out they lose their whole community. Nowhere else does this happen except in cult-like environments. 

  You know this and you continue to exploit anyway. Cut the shit, Jo. You are a very intelligent and clever manipulator. It should be called "Pink Cloud" training. Leaving Gratitude Training is like leaving Scientology or the Hare Krishna's  I am already meeting people online that want to get their loved ones out. You are unscrupulous and charismatic and wicked all in one breath. 

Programs like GT are inherently deceptive. They are unregulated and unaccountable and they change people people without them knowing it.

(12)   IRS Letter

GT claims an elite status. They claim to be the "2 per cent." GT lives in an "us versus them" mind set. Ironically, GT participants are largely self absorbed and have little access to the outside world that they claim they want to change.

A "Happy Clappy" cult wearing "New Age" clothes.


2) If you leave the 
"love bombed" community you thought cared for you, you will be treated viciously and cruelly. A complete freeze-out... similar to a Scientology "suppressive." Alone in the desert. Prior to leaving you would have been pressured and coerced into Coaching calls, Mentor calls, Small group calls, Large group calls, Group projects, Fundraising, Signing up others etc... As many as 30 plus hours per week. (The 80 day Part 3 is the indoctrination phase where hooks are placed in and you are smothered with brainwashing.

3) Completely untrained and unpaid staff will hold your vomit bag as you incessantly scream who you hate most in life. If you aint' sobbbin' you aint tryin.' Vomiting is always a break through!

4) Group calls (in Part 3) can last over 3 hours and damaged, broken, and often molested young girls are lauded for sobbing hysterically. This is part of the "breaking down" and control process. This is the harvest for unpaid future "zombie like" staffs.

5) In my training
a young female experienced a psychotic break that looked every bit like a demonic possession. The staff ran after her and tackled her and the police and 911 were called. She was in a Psych hospital for 5 days. We were told that she was taken care of properly but there is no verification this is true. This poor girl became as "disposable" as highway road kill. I was told that to talk about her was to take away sacred space from the group (hmmmm). 

6) As you move further into the training the demands on your time increase where it
consumes your entire life, family, and steals time from your career. You, the paying customer, are relentlessly hounded to sign people up.

GT  does not erect walls nor do they work from a compound. Yet they master the art of isolation nevertheless. Their incessant demands of one's time pushes away the outside world. This an intentional and duplicitous way of separating the herd from from the world at large.


7) The founder does not even show up on Wikipedia. Why is anyone following her? She is trained only in that she has learned from other "teachers" and has
copied “LifeSpring” almost word for word.  been in it only 10 years approximately. The background is sketchy and Gratitude Training claims Ghandi, Mother Theresa, and Martin Luther King as prototypes. Yet it is highly deceptive for Gratitude Training to claim their principles were used by these people. 

8) They claim that students will attain abundance.
This may be the biggest lie of the program. They state this with zero documentation. Zero. My experience has been that the population of graduates are nearly broke...  many caught in a whirl wind of New Age practices where students literally compete against each other. A model predestined to fail.

Those with money will be extorted to pay for those with no money (approximately 70 per cent). Extortion can be direct pressure... or seating you with team mates who are standing on chairs literally begging foe help. Pressure is clearly applied to those with means as those that want help are often in tears.  

10) Family members who are "inside" the cult put immediate distance between those "outside" the cult by simply being "in the cult." The solution? Sign up all your family who stand outside the cult. They have no qualms with separations of family relations like the father/son separation I experienced. 

Never have I seen one very well paid trainer or staff member open their wallet. The fact the Jo Englesson /partners / staff can unconscionably watch students stand on chairs and beg for money is one of the hardest things for me to comprehend. If this program had any integrity there would be alumni backed scholarships.

"CRACK" SPIRITUALITY REVEALED    According to Jo Englesson’s own theories, she claims she is 100% responsible for everything 100 % of the time. We all "author" everything! So, as can be seen above, presumably some of the alumni who posted see the irony of (1) Her own theories collapsing within on her (2) and (possibly) presumed doubts about the woman who claims a vision of “world peace” who uses court rooms and lawyers when questioned. The ugly allegations were made against a dad who “scholar-shipped” at least 15 students into the program and whose sons were still in Part 3 in the program. Nice.

Gang raped as a child? You "authored" it. 
Killed in World Trade Center? You "authored" it.  
Aborted at two months? Yes, you "authored" it!

It appears that from some corners, that (A) Englesson’s unproven and fanciful metaphysical theories, and (B) the credibility and integrity of the founder, and (C) the notion that anyone’s life can be actually grounded on these notions, and (D) that the idea anyone should forfeit hours of unpaid labor… are under siege. (Forgive me for a practical thought - but if you never pay into social security are you willing to live on the streets at 80?) 


Personal experiences that I can share is that (1) the euphoria created in certain parts of this program are also available elsewhere at retreats, other programs etc. My hope is that young people who are feeling these wonderful feelings for the first time realize that this program is not the lone source of these non-pharmaceutical “highs.” (2) Everything fades. We all end up in a drift of some sort. Hopefully a peaceful and joyful one. Vacuuming the center at no pay will not prevent a drift other than the one called "poverty." (3) Unpaid labor should not be the price one pays to keep the energy alive. Love won’t pay the bills. And neither will the founder. Instead, for the young women listening, you "get" the chance  to show your wares at "sexy bingo" night. Classy. A thrust (no pun intended) for Engellson's vision of "world peace?" (Why did she stop at the world? There is a universe you know. So small minded. Sigh.)

Out of the approximate 3500 Florida alumni, how many people 5 years out are able to give ample free time to this program, and raise kids, and go to school/ have a career, and have a full life outside of the training room? And who wants to commit their future to give no one else a future? (This isn't a Zen Koan from "Baba DeSanti" nor a claim that fetuses choose or "author" their own abortion (cue - play Schindler's List music). This is a real question.

For me, the literal absence of a future was the most frightening observation. I was subsidizing my sons’ unpaid volunteering (God Bless them) while a company profited. Trying to raise money for their friends’ tuition was admirable and even winsome – but who staged this (admittedly ingenious) game? No future means your present really sucks. I doubt this will become a slogan. 

Maybe “I am because you are (as stupid as I am). Take no offense, I was stupid too. But together we don’t have to stay that way. (Emoticons of Smiles, hearts, hands clapping, hands worshipping, Yipee yee haw and a namaste too!)

Put bluntly, I never once saw Jo Englesson wash a car. And at the same time, when questioned uncomfortably, with alacrity, she runs to her lawyer and the courts (and not to hand out Gratitude tokens). 

Who gave her guru status? And Why? Something to think about. It appears from research this was a copied program by a lady who gave it a nice name. 
It could have been called “Trauma bonding.” It could have been called Breakdowns and Love bombs.” But it was given the euphemistic name of Gratitude Training. Lovely.

Cult master? Getting closer. Perhaps “Slickster that makes Trump turn green.” Perhaps “Life rafter for the broken.” Perhaps “Catch the tail wind of Ellen and watch me fly.” Perhaps “Coin dispenser with crocodile tears?” You decide. 
The ground rules of GT are notable for their emphasis upon strict obedience to the trainer. Some rules lack an apparent rationale (No mints? Smokers must cease cold turkey during training?). 

Disagreement with a rule entailed standing up alone with the possibility of being kicked out. Thus adherence to the rules are extorted and NOT freely made.


MESSAGE: From Founder Jo Engellson of Gratitude Training LLC to a Florida FaceBook group of Florida "alumni"... about 3,500 "graduates" of the 3 1/2 month training.  I use the word "graduate" lightly since it is only a 3 1/2 month program.

   Dear Community, As many of you have seen, there is a man named Mark Robbins, who after being asked to leave ML in Fort Lauderdale, decided to slander me and the Gratitude Trainings. I've had to file an injunction for stalking as he kept contacting and showing up harassing the staff and graduates. At this point we are also working on a defamation lawsuit as he is doing the same on Social Media and on the Internet. If you don't know who this man is, or you have no desire to be in relationship with him, just ignore, report, or block him (as you desire). Moreover, feel free to forward any communication from him to me should you feel it's inappropriate or false. Send it to jo----

Some "graduates" are too far down the "rabbit hole" to be reached (too much "Kool Aid"... insert your own metaphor). However, as can be seen above, some of the "graduates" have seen the "con" played on them and have turned the tables on Jo Engellson.




The officer was very pleasant, professional, and empathetic!!

"Illegal service" provided one day before the hearing. I had it moved. Hearing set up to prevent my peaceful protesting of the cult (Cults don't usually play fair).

 My friend Maria, Jo Englesson, and I are pictured in a happy moment. Jo Englesson, very curiously, only became "afraid" of me after I questioned her business practices. 

NOTE: SOMEONE "TRYING" TO LOOK LIKE ELLEN DEGENERES DOES NOT MEAN THEY ARE ETHICALLY THE SAME!! DO NOT BE FOOLED BY APPEARANCES!! (domain name) has been purchased. This will be a site dedicated to exposing this cult where mad money is being made, labor isn't compensated, and taxes aren't being rightfully paid.

Unsafe groups or "cults" often abuse and exploit their members. This abuse may occur in the areas of finances, physical labor, child abuse and neglect, medical neglect, sexual exploitation and/or psychological and emotional abuse. GT is culpable to all of these offense at the veryleast indirectly.


After many spoken promises about confidentiality, the truth is nothing is confidential when you anger Miss "World Peace" (Founder Jo Engellson). Trashing includes disclosure of personal information on public court documents, including...
A) private and very intimate sharing from the trainings
B) Information from my application
C) Hearsay and gossip (almost all false) 
D) Questioning of my sobriety (31 yrs with no drink)
E) False accusations; Concocted Psychiatric Conditions
F) Criminal allegations (w no actual convictions on record)

... you know, the types of things cults do when they are threatened with exposure.


My vision and my goal is to expose Gratitude Training as the nasty cult that it is and to have them close doors within a year. This would be the best contribution I could make to the communities they prey upon. Using their language - they "authored" me and now they get to have me. Pure magic!!


1) Salaries (The fact alone that they disclose nothing... and will ask you to leave if you a ask a few times... raises many red flags.) 

2) Incentives not disclosed.


    A) ExampleHaving someone stand up and embarrass themselves if they don't agree to a ground rule. Use of public embarrassment is coercion. If you don't agree you get to experience the "walk of shame" from your 70 person (or so) group. Every ground rule made in this way is"null and void." This includes confidentiality. So trust me when I tell you - your secrets are not safe. I have ethics. I am "playing nice" by not mentioning names and very personal stuff.
    B)  ExampleI was called and extortion was attempted to help get a team member from Part 2 into Part 3. He lived in Texas. Air fare and tuition! He never came. 
    C) ExampleOur entire Part 3 Team (who had paid) was told to go and "rescue" our teammates who were stuck in registration and could not afford the tuition. So we all were forced to watch our teammates with sad puppy faces... some in tears. Coercion? Ya think? Were we (with ability to pay) going to let our teammates drown in the lifeboat (this was an actual exercise in the program probably, very calculatingly, inserted into Part 2 with this exact scenario in mind.)

Note: Since all ground rules were extorted... I have no duty to keep these from public view. Truth be told... very little has not been used in some program previously. I will disclose the exercises when I get the time. 

4) Involuntary servitude (coerced labor with no pay)

5) Deceptive and unsubstantiated claims

One of the canards that GT puts forth is that the training will only be valuable if a student pays its own way. this is subterfuge to hide the fact that GT has virtually no alumni scholarship fund. By comparison Harvard has an endowment of $36 billion! Obviously the best schools in the country see the value if financial aid.

6)Pyramid scheme model 

7) Business model based on other cults (Scientology, Hare Krishna's, Landmark Education). Paid staff on top of a bedrock of free labor.

8) Material taken from Land Mark Education, Summit, LifeSpring etc. 

9) Unfair Labor Practices (It is patently illegal to use force or coercion to have somebody work. This includes all of the crazy promises that GT makes if we are to “throw ourselves into service.” Brainwashed people are not choosing based on free will.

10) More unsubstantiated claims... many ML grads down their road struggle with poverty. Many lead desultory lives as though they had never taken the training. 

11) BREACH of Confidentiality (copied from above) After many spoken promises about confidentiality… turns out… Nothing is confidential when you anger THE CULT MASTER Miss "World Peace”… Founder Jo Engellson

Trashing/Smearing includes disclosures from

A) Exaggerations from public legal documents

A) Private and very intimate sharing from the training
B) Information from my application
C) Hearsay and gossip (Truth be damned)
D) Questioning of my sobriety (31 yrs with no drink)
E) False accusations; Concocted Psychiatric Conditions

... you know, the types of things cults do when they are exposed. 

My singular "mistake" was asking too many questions. As a caveat, I can't even be sued since my money is held in a trust

Readers will view this blog en masse and this blog will climb the google search board. Good bye Gratitude Training! Miss "World Peace" (Founder Jo Englesson)... will have to find a less obvious way to exploit people. 

Just remember. Everything fades. I did enjoy Parts 1 and 2. But it seems so distant now. Over time you will have nothing to the training alive unless you want to sell your soul as an unpaid volunteer for life. Or you can be a paid trainer. But do you really want to exploit people?

The only way for a student to "keep the energy alive" is to convince people that they must work at no pay to keep it alive. This is not a vision. This is involuntary servitude. My message is resonating rapidly. There are multi year sentences for breaking labor laws. Nothing is voluntary in this "training." Saying it is voluntary does not make it so. The thing to look for is coercion. Without coercion "Pink Cloud Training" would cease to exist. Coercion is the key factor. Coercion shows up everywhere. 

   Thank you GT for allowing me the opportunity to expose "Pink Cloud" Training and to actually make an impact on the world. Gratitude Training has told me I am bold, courageous, brilliant, and power beyond belief. A true wall breaker in the image you claim to admire. FICTION OR FACT!

(18)  ABOUT ME 

Pictured above is the blogger (me) that Gratitude Training fears so much. 

BA Economics Wake Forest Univ; MBA (4.0) Lehigh Univ.
CMA Cetified Management Accountant 
CFM Certified Financial Manager 
Taught business classes at University level
Career in Corporate Senior Level Finance
Adopted twin boys.

(19)    PICTURE OF SCAMMERS (Trainers and Trainer Wannabes)


                                                 SCAM  FLIM-FLAM     Trainer Chris "Ba Ba" DeSanti far left    Founder Jo Englesson (Miss World Peace)   Trainer Francine Rahe ("I only dropped 100 F- bombs today!"


GT's use of involuntary labor fan be fairly compared to penoage whereby a disabled person is illegally compelled to work while not freely choosing to do so. Similarly, a person in GT may also be working without full consent of their will after being brainwashed or emotionally traumatized.

Illegal unpaid labor
    A for profit business cannot use unpaid volunteers regardless of their motivations, zeal, belief in the vision, or level of brainwashing. Consequences for misclassifying employees as volunteers can be grave.  A "volunteer" can claim that an employer-employee relationship existed and ask for unpaid wages and overtime pay.  Businesses may also be liable for unpaid taxes (Social Security, unemployment and workers’ compensation and payroll taxes) and fines for failure to withhold income tax. For example, in 2010, America Online, Inc. settled a class action suit brought against it by thousands of former volunteers (community leaders who during the 1990s spent approximately 2-4 hours per week hosting and moderating AOL chat rooms, reporting offensive behavior, answering questions from other subscribers and reviewing bulletin board postings)claiming that they were employees and not volunteers and should have been paid at least minimum wages for the work they performed for AOL.  What started as a two-person lawsuit was later certified into a class action and resulted in America Online reportedly paying $15 million to settle the litigation. 
Correctly classifying employees is important for any business, whether it is a start-up or an established enterprise.  The amount of money that may be saved by using volunteers may pale in comparison to all the back wages, legal fees, fines and penalties that a business may have to pay later if sued by the disgruntled volunteers and/or investigated by the Department of Labor.

Many participants joined these religious cults during periods of depression, confusion, and vulnerability... often they had a sense that life was meaningless. The cult had promised--and for many had provided--a solution to the distress of the developmental crises that are frequent at this age. Cults supply ready-made friendships and ready made decisions about careers, dating, sex, and marriage, and they outline a clear "meaning of life." In return, they may demand total obedience to cult commands.


Date: July 30, 2017 
  I am a graduate of Gratitude Training in South Florida. I did all of their programs from beginning to staffing and I’m embarrassed to say I did. I am NOT going to write about what I THINK of my time at Gratitude Training. I AM going to just tell you what I saw: 

  Many people who go and the staff are barely functioning in their lives. Not paying rent, losing jobs, putting this crap ahead of family. Married people flirting and groping people that were not their wife and husband. So so many affairs. An unbelievable amount of drug and sex addicts. Many who recently came from AA. Doing it all again! They talking nasty about things outside of the training. Their people, family, jobs, their kids. And the kids!! People using Gratitude events as a chance to get away from their “brats” (their kids). Ya, I heard that a lot!!! 

  I saw people lose their jobs and claim it was an empowered choice. Lots of couch surfing and homeless people. (my note: I have offered my place twice!!) People looking for any reason to get naked with each other. Lots of talk about “being” God. (One trainer goes around and he call himself Christ).

  They trash openly over things shared in confidence. Lot’s of side conversations. Right! They don’t judge! lol People given assignments to give sex to make them “grow out of their limiting beliefs”. Calling it a stretch!!  Some people that have solid finances and jobs are pushed and shame to carry others, so that they could continue their training. (my note: hmmm... sounds familiar!!) There are groups of gay girls that get off on turning the straight girl. And a bunch of guys that staff and hang out at the trainings to get girls. 

  And a huge amount of people offering enlightening, coaching, massages, drugs, and every multi level marketing job you can think of. But no one has a  job!! 

  What shocks me is that employees of Gratitude Training seem to be aware of all of these things! They don't care!! They really don't! They all say, “What does your judgement create in the world?” (my note: "Said to me today!) 

  That girl Jo Englesson seemed so nice. But really? Save the world and world peace!! Are you shitting me? I am so worn out. Some of these people are my family. Can’t do it anymore. Because it is making me crazy. I’m ashamed that I brought my people in. I'm more ashamed that I lost what I loved most. I liked myself better before I had to keep so many secrets.


Freda- Don't be ashamed. Millions of people have been manipulated by these LGATs. What matters is that you "woke up" and realized what they truly are. This is a great place to get support. I am currently working on a project. If you are interested in helping, I would love your support. Feel free to message me and I can give you further details if you are interested. For now, forgive yourself- IT IS NOT YOUR FAULT. Take some time to process and heal. 

Posted by: Free from this cult ()
Date: August 01, 2017 12:21PM

I HOPE I CAN REACH OUT TO THIS COMMUNITY. My son is talking like a zombie and as entrapped in the cult called "GRATITUDE TRAINING." WHO has experience in getting their kids out of a cult? WHO CAN HELP ME PROSECUTE GRATITUDE TRAINING BY NOT PAYING WORKERS AND THROUGH THEIR ROUTINE USE OF EXTORTION?

It is a “FOR PROFIT" Company and the founder Jo Englesson has been profiting madly off the exploitation. She is a charlatan, charismatic, conniving, very wicked.

My son is caught in the "80 day" induction phase and his life is completely consumed by this cult. Any help would be greatly appreciated. He is only 19. My son is a newly "out" Transgender.The cult is exploiting this dangerous transition time of both!! It is absolutely sickening to watch.

I was part of their organization until when, with my extensive business background, I called them out on their ILLEGAL BUSINESS PRACTICES. Two Hours later I was frozen out of the entire community. It took seconds. I live in Boca Raton FL. I love my son so much and this cult has ensnared him. I have written a comprehensive evaluation of this cult and I guarantee it is eye-popping." Go to the FB page called GRATITUDE TRAINING EXPOSED 

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Date: August 03, 2017 02:12AM

New Information: While my son was attending one of the "FREE INTRODUCTIONS"... I held up a sign outside the training that said: "GRATITUDE TRAINING EXPOSED - A FaceBoook Page (go there!). I was there 5 minutes and walked away. They had two of their "staff" follow me throughout the mall whole on cell phones. It was positively creepy.

They then called the cops and lied to them. They claimed that they had already warned me of trespassing and were trying to convince the cops of this. THIS WAS A LIE.  They 
were literally trying to send me to jail while my son was inside the Training Center.
What are they so afraid of? I will tell you what... their entire existence!  I was the consummate insider who was asked to leave because I questioned them on heir highly illegal business practices. They don't pay their workers! This is completely illegal for a "FOR PROFIT" business." 

- So once again we have new versions of the same thing. My wife is involved and has turned into a somewhat groupie. She keeps telling me I am a victim and makes me wron for thngs she thought before were OK. Watch out for this one. Gratitude Trainings in Florida have the same Lifespring trainers. Jo Englesson is a guru wanna be leader. She is a good actress. Scary - relationships fail. And she is about money money money. She is creating other ones as well. 

 -  Gratitude Training in Florida and Charlotte is run by Jo Englesson. She is a self made guru who wants everyone to follow her. She and Ray Blanchard Uses same methods of training as other Large Group Awareness Trainings. She is Unethical. They use public Humiliation, manipulation, and it is definitely a cult.   Everything is about their "great leader."    

- Aggressive / Manipulative Sales Tactics, Psychological Breakdown/ Breakthrough, Exploiting Human Weakness for Profit, Food and Sleep Deprivation, Trance and Ericksonian Hypnosis, Embedded Commands, Social Influence, Mind Control

Gratitude Training does indeed incorporate the same fundamental principles to get people to not think for themselves. It must be the forms they make you sign. This smells like a cult, People seem like robots. 

I recently found out I had a co-worker that did the Gratitude Training in Florida for a year or so. I realize he was always mildly annoying as it was but for that year everyone in the office did their best to avoid talking to him. I asked some of my coworkers why. They said it was because all he was doing was recruiting/reciting back the feel-good messages they were pumping into his head. It did seem to have a somewhat positive effect on his life, but I don't feel like it would be any different than joining a legitimate church and taking it seriously. I think you have to be very open-minded plus slightly dumb in order to "get" anything from this organization. My coworker said it is a cult. I get that now. 

Gratitude Trainings are dangerous, like a cult , and make people become strange. I have been doing more research about Gratitude Trainings in Florida and Gratitude Charlotte and Jo Englesson and the new leader Liliana Barr, Very scary. They are spawned from Lifespring which then was turned into Summit Education. Then this Jo Englesson, self declared author. No integrity but lots of charisma. Perfect cult leader stuff. This is a truly slimey offspring of Lifespring. One woman in one of the trainings went into a catatonic fit during one of those hypnotic lectures. She was removed from the room. Another woman went into a hysterical fit during an exercise. Someone was telling me in detail how the tactic is like confidence building along with an Amway style approach to manulipating your friends into the pyramid scheme. The agressive approach is about getting people into the work. Especially offering free introductions. There are plenty of weak minded people out there for them to prey on. SO they use the new pop word gratitude to cover up the business of making money. Jo Englesson isnt even a citizen of the US. Very sad and concerning. 

 "Uninformed and at a vulnerable time" -- that's the situation most of us are in when we get recruited. And, too often, we are not told, up front, about a leader's actual background and training. Instead, we are given only glowing testimonials. Nor are we told what percentage of subjects benefit and what percentage do not benefit. We don't even know how students are faring 3 years out. It is nothing but a magic cloud that dissipates over time.... and actually leaves people disillusioned... like WHERE DID IT GO ? WHY CAN'T I GET IT BACK? A Drawn OUT DRUG HIGH

- Gratitude Training - Beware 

FYI...  Gratitude training's hierarchy looks like this:
Trainer (one per class) 
Paid staff (maybe 2 per location?) 
12 or more Volunteer leaders (I still don't understand a volunteer at a for profit business.) Free labor - Holy shit - must be nice. 
And other people holding doors open and holding sacred space, (is this a real thing?) One thing,I noticed is that some people mentioned that they alienated their family or friends soon after the seminar ended. That's probably the more common kind of damage.

Response: No wonder they have you sign your rights away. Lawsuits! The connection with all of the other LGAT's is obvious but I didn't realize how closely connected it was to the old "Lifespring". Even if these groups are sued and close down they somehow reopen with new names. It's clearly a money maker. Warn your family members!   

2011  There is a new LGAT on the scene and it goes by the name of Gratitude Training. Unbeknownst to me, I signed up for the training based on a "friend's" recommendation. I actually learned a lot from the first part of the training, but took it with a grain of salt. The teachings are actually pretty useful and relevant to an extent. The part that I take issue with is the people who are qualified as "trainers" running the training. These people have no qualifications, which is not to say that they can't offer anything, but the zealotry that they preach with is tough to take. Also, they do not take no for an answer, which will end up biting them in the long run.

I tried to stay out of the long term training, repeatedly saying no to the staff. I was clear that the gratitude training was not for me long term. However, these groups are quite incestuous, so if you say no the trainers or staff, with whom you have no prior experience, they will tell your friend (the person who enrolled you) and get them to try to manipulate your decision. This is exactly what happened to me. I have since moved on from the Gratitude Training, but not after having gone to places I did not want to go. Feeling used and manipulated by the group is a pretty bad feeling, especially knowing that they repeatedly take advantage of people's vulnerability. Having been in the training long enough, they brag about enrollment rates and how many people stay with the training from phase to phase. This is completely disgusting because they do not look at the individual's situation, but think that their method is right for all, which it is clearly not. These people are leaches and prey on innocent people, and will never look in the mirror to admit it.



Picture sent to me in regards to final retreat weekend of Part 3


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My daughter is currently going through this training, l3rd step), provided by her job. At first it seemed great for her. But then I started to spot oddities. Not being aloud to speak of what just happened that night (of "class"), not coming home and staying at "elders" of the group's home, being evasive of what her weeks entails, and the worst of all...when I questioned something she told me "well that is your truth"...when I questioned that termilogy, she said that is how they teach her to explain something she feels confrontational or different from her beliefs. I have asked for opinions of others and they all say "cult", yet my daughter is blinded. She used to tell me everything she was doing, coming home, staying out, be home later, whatever...but no more. Now our home is 2nd rate to her, i don't know how to get her out and am scared that she may alienate me/us. What do I do?

Aug 3  2017      Hello Mark. I recently came across an experience with Gratitude Training, though I never attended nor planned to. My life was devastated from their "teachings" and wasn't even part of the group. I want my 6 year old daughter to grow up with her mom and dad under one roof.

If you would like to hear my story and maybe shed some light into the situation you can contact me at --- --- ---- I just ask to keep it confidHere Thank you.


     A)  "Lifespring" - The mirror image of GT   See link  HERE

      B)     Involuntary Servitude (brainwashed people relinquish free will) See link HERE

      C)    FELONY MAIL FRAUD    Highly deceptive brochures / info mailed by GT  See link HERE

      D)   "I LOST MY HUSBAND TO A CULT!!" (Lifespring)  See link HERE

      E)     Large Group Awareness Training (Like GT) - Skeptics Dictionary    See link HERE

      F)     STUDY: Minimal Lasting Effects  See link HERE

      G)    "Gullible People" old article... but the program still the same   See link HERE

      H)      Cult Education Network - one man's opinion   See link  Here
      I)       Wikipedia and references therein